Post by Humble Genius on Oct 1, 2012 18:29:01 GMT -5
To bigbadberry3:
What a great comics you have posted, and the legend is hilarious...
Look, lets start knowing what is a MUON. A muon is the LEFTOVER of a cosmic ray collision with the particles of our atmosphere. Did you learn this FACT in your university? No? If no, then, what lies the teacher told you, besides of the common description of being a lepton and etc, etc...
Now, with this fact at hand, knowing that in nature muons are the leftovers of such a collision, we understand that muons are not cosmic rays themselves, this is to say, the particles that arrive to earth at high speeds.
Do you get it? The muons are not the ones that are traveling at the speed of light but the cosmic rays are the ones reaching such a speed...the muons are not cosmic rays but the residuals AFTER the cosmic rays hit the atoms in our atmosphere. (I had to repeat the same concept of a muon in order to go to the analogy)
Now, you take one airplane, make it go up the higher it can reach, at make it go in free fall into the ocean. The airplane will collide with the water and will turn into pieces...there it goes the motor that way...the wings the other way...the tail in that direction...etc...all the pieces going under water to rest at the bottom of the ocean.
You pull the motor OUT of the water and after drying up, you turn the motor On. The motor will respond, of course, but IT WON'T LAST LONG, because water has damaged its internal parts, corrosion has damaged the surface of most of its parts.
The motor of the airplane will last just a little bit after pulling it out from the water.
NOW, LETS CONCLUDE THE ANALOGY saying that the airplane is the cosmic ray, the ocean is our atmosphere, and the motor is the muon.
What has been observed when you expose the muon to its FORMER environment (vacuum and speed)? Yes, you have observed the same that happened to the motor of the airplane when you pull it out of the water, the muon recovered temporarily its former status, but, of course, the muon and the motor continued their decay because are residuals of collisions and have been exposed already to an environment that will cause their fast decay.
So, there is not such a "time dilatation" here, but a common and simple cause and effect of being part of a collision and decaying fast because the muon is no longer part integral of the cosmic ray and is exposed now to a totally different environment.
As you can see, in your university...you have been deceived.
In case you disagree, please, post here YOUR explanation of what is a muon,how is the process in the muon that make it last longer when exposed back to vacuum and to high speeds. In case you can't explain it with layman words, then give an analogy as I did right above, but a valid one.
I said to give a valid analogy, because -for example- the analogy given by the former director of the Techno-Israeli Institute, Mr Brian L Silver in his book The Ascent of Science, well, his analogy is not an analogy but a stupid argument, because he tried to explain what is going on with the muon saying that is similar as the muon having an internal coin thrower, different types of particle having different rates of throw. Heads, I disintegrate; tails, I live a bit longer. The thrower knows when to throw because he has a clock (ha ha ha, there he goes this dude with his imagination at work...ha ha ha) Pressure and temperature changes have no effect on the rate of this internal clock (ha ha ha...now this dude says that muons have tested atomic clocks inside...ha ha ha) In experiments at CERN, a beam of muons have been induced to rush round a circular tube at speeds of 99.94% of the speed of light. If you put this figure...and such and such...
See? is this right above the best the relativists can go with such an explanation? hello?
Clearly his analogy is no more than mixing ideas trying to flirt with quantum mechanics plying dice, using clocks exposed at high speeds with the intention of justify relativity at work...you can notice that his fantasy sounds great but is not what is going on inside the Muon -otherwise show me the coin thrower and the clock- and neither an analogy...but a stupid story.
What a great comics you have posted, and the legend is hilarious...
Look, lets start knowing what is a MUON. A muon is the LEFTOVER of a cosmic ray collision with the particles of our atmosphere. Did you learn this FACT in your university? No? If no, then, what lies the teacher told you, besides of the common description of being a lepton and etc, etc...
Now, with this fact at hand, knowing that in nature muons are the leftovers of such a collision, we understand that muons are not cosmic rays themselves, this is to say, the particles that arrive to earth at high speeds.
Do you get it? The muons are not the ones that are traveling at the speed of light but the cosmic rays are the ones reaching such a speed...the muons are not cosmic rays but the residuals AFTER the cosmic rays hit the atoms in our atmosphere. (I had to repeat the same concept of a muon in order to go to the analogy)
Now, you take one airplane, make it go up the higher it can reach, at make it go in free fall into the ocean. The airplane will collide with the water and will turn into pieces...there it goes the motor that way...the wings the other way...the tail in that direction...etc...all the pieces going under water to rest at the bottom of the ocean.
You pull the motor OUT of the water and after drying up, you turn the motor On. The motor will respond, of course, but IT WON'T LAST LONG, because water has damaged its internal parts, corrosion has damaged the surface of most of its parts.
The motor of the airplane will last just a little bit after pulling it out from the water.
NOW, LETS CONCLUDE THE ANALOGY saying that the airplane is the cosmic ray, the ocean is our atmosphere, and the motor is the muon.
What has been observed when you expose the muon to its FORMER environment (vacuum and speed)? Yes, you have observed the same that happened to the motor of the airplane when you pull it out of the water, the muon recovered temporarily its former status, but, of course, the muon and the motor continued their decay because are residuals of collisions and have been exposed already to an environment that will cause their fast decay.
So, there is not such a "time dilatation" here, but a common and simple cause and effect of being part of a collision and decaying fast because the muon is no longer part integral of the cosmic ray and is exposed now to a totally different environment.
As you can see, in your university...you have been deceived.
In case you disagree, please, post here YOUR explanation of what is a muon,how is the process in the muon that make it last longer when exposed back to vacuum and to high speeds. In case you can't explain it with layman words, then give an analogy as I did right above, but a valid one.
I said to give a valid analogy, because -for example- the analogy given by the former director of the Techno-Israeli Institute, Mr Brian L Silver in his book The Ascent of Science, well, his analogy is not an analogy but a stupid argument, because he tried to explain what is going on with the muon saying that is similar as the muon having an internal coin thrower, different types of particle having different rates of throw. Heads, I disintegrate; tails, I live a bit longer. The thrower knows when to throw because he has a clock (ha ha ha, there he goes this dude with his imagination at work...ha ha ha) Pressure and temperature changes have no effect on the rate of this internal clock (ha ha ha...now this dude says that muons have tested atomic clocks inside...ha ha ha) In experiments at CERN, a beam of muons have been induced to rush round a circular tube at speeds of 99.94% of the speed of light. If you put this figure...and such and such...
See? is this right above the best the relativists can go with such an explanation? hello?
Clearly his analogy is no more than mixing ideas trying to flirt with quantum mechanics plying dice, using clocks exposed at high speeds with the intention of justify relativity at work...you can notice that his fantasy sounds great but is not what is going on inside the Muon -otherwise show me the coin thrower and the clock- and neither an analogy...but a stupid story.